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I’ve heard it all. There’s broad hatred for The West in the Islamic World. We’ve toyed with their borders, their culture, their artifacts, their resources, and invaded two Muslim countries.
We’ve brought Jihad upon ourselves, with the most radical elements of Islam splashing in a sewer of justifiable rage; they’ve “hi-jacked” an otherwise peaceful brand of monotheism. They have claims against modernity; we should understand.
Defense against them is a police and legal action, moderate elements in Islam being the key to our success in defending the tolerant from the intolerant.
We’re no different than they are. Hold this idea to your breast when one of them plunges a dagger into it. Those without the capacity for outrage are not on my side, and I don’t want you cluttering up the battlefield anyway.
I’m different, we’re different. Islamists need to be killed wherever they’re found. Dominated, humiliated, destroyed, erased; their theological and familial soil soaked with their blood until the supply runs dry. There is, will not be, any substitute for pitiless, unequivocal action to wipe this disgrace from the earth. There’s a fight to the death. Two men go in, one comes out. That’s all.
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“Those without the capacity for outrage are not on my side, and I don’t want you cluttering up the battlefield anyway.”
I do! I always liked the idea of a bullet sponge between me and the turkey trying to kill me. Prop them up, let them suck them up and I’ll keep sniping away.
I am one who believes that our actions have made the situation worse than it might have been. If we hadn’t been involved so heavily in that region for the last couple of decades, their 7th century culture would barely know who we are.
However, that said, we are where we are. I don’t think there’s any way to put the genie back in the bottle. My own preference is that we get the hell out of there and cut off all ties. I’d deny entry to this country to anyone from any nation that does not fight terrorism its own country, tooth and nail. I’d stop trade tomorrow. I don’t care if oil goes to $200 per barrel. And I’d secure our nation for real, not these token measures we’ve seen over the last several years.
To me, if we’re not going to do that, then the only other answer is to do it your way. I haven’t seen many people publicly back extermination of people from the earth, but if we’re not going to do it my way, then that’s the only viable answer. The primary reason I don’t support the action in Iraq and why I would have leveled Afghanistan and brought the troops home immediately is, we’re not changing anything over there. The troops are doing an outstanding job, but we’re not changing anything. When the people of these countries want to stamp out terror, they simply will. Until then, nothing is changing.
We can either protect ourselves from the problem, get out and let the issue fade over time (my way), or “fix” the problem (your way). I sincerely don’t see another viable solution.
You might start by shooting Congress first.
India was just one pimple of a massive infection called Islam. You’ll see more. We’ll need our own oil here and soon for Putin plans to shut down Europe’s supplies and with Iran’ help cut back western flow.
How many main battle tanks have you seen with solar panels?
A quarantine makes sense, but I doubt that Islamists would ignore us.
They hate us because we exist.
Vermont, I think the proper term for a bullet sponge is a meat shield, but I suppose there is no need to quibble.
Mike wrote: “I haven’t seen many people publicly back extermination of people from the earth”
That assumes that Islamists are people. From what I can tell they are animals with no redeeming benefit to the rest of the world (at least Mosquitos play a useful part in the food chain).
Describing my view as the “extermination of people from the earth” is simply ridiculous. I advocate the extermination and/or total defeat of Islamists…who project that heinous mixture of German style fascism with Islamic fundamentalism. Convert or die. If Islam is the sole cause by itself, I don’t see it.
Islam promotes passivity, futility and a slave mentality, as far as I can see, and despotism, authoritarianism and filth like the Iranian mullah kleptocrats, and scumbags like al Sadr, Hamas, Hizbullah, and the Iranian craploads encourage the rest. Those who look for an Islamic Reformation as the solution are seeing an Islamic Reformation right now. A return to purity from secular complicity with Western ways.
There is no bargain that can be struck with this Islamist slime. We’re not going to quarantine the Islamic world, and wherever we’ve encouraged democracy, the result is the election of fanatics and killers like Fatah and Hamas, or religious nuts of lesser conviction like in Iraq. This train is on a single track and the crackup is coming.
It’s only a matter of time before these skunks get their hands on some type of nuke, and they’ll use it. Strange, but the Islamic world is living on borrowed time because of it. B-12 guzzling pigs like the Saudis haven’t done much to discourage fanaticism.
They and others are complicit in Iran’s nuclearization of the Middle East. They’re all gonna fry sooner or later.
“Describing my view as the “extermination of people from the earth” is simply ridiculous. I advocate the extermination and/or total defeat of Islamists…”
Call it what you will, but you’re advocating killing an entire group of people who wish to live under Islamic law. Dehumanize them if you need to, but it’s genocide, plain and simple. The fact is, the vast majority of them are no danger to any of us, and you would kill them anyway.
You could have said “terrorists” or any other similar category, but you lumped together everyone in the world that chooses to live under Islamic law. That’s hundreds of millions of people.
Don’t act like I put words in your mouth.
Study the word, Mike. Islamists. NOT Muslims. Nazis. NOT Germans. It’s a combination of politics and religion, the most fanatical factions seeking to unite the Muslim world and convert, or kill, infidels across the globe. Read the comment.
And drop the white robe and halo, Mike. You recommended quarantine for the Islamic world, “levelling” Afghanistan and abandoning the destruction, refusing emigration per se for any resident of a country that doesn’t fight terrorism by your standards.
Have you ever seen the consequences of levelling, or making the rubble bounce? Maybe you ought to. The carnage would turn your stomach, the smell would make you retch, and the postures of the dead would never fade away. Apparently you’ve never seen it, so it’s easy to bleat about.
What a crock. What a hypocrite.
I think you may need a new dictionary, Hotspur. An Islamist is a person who chooses to live under Islamic law, i.e. where the government is run on Islamic principles, like Iran.
I’m not sure how far you’d like to go beyond terrorists, but after you get through with them, then you’re just killing people for the sake of killing them.
I advocated leveling Afghanistan as a response to the 9/11 attacks, which were carried out by al Qaieda who was sponsored directly by the Taliban government (also Islamists, FYI).
You said yourself that those people will not be reasoned with. Why continue to put ourselves at risk by maintaining ties with that part of the world? Perhaps we could just pick a new random battlefield somewhere in the middle east for our troops to duke it out while we pretend that we’re doing something about terrorists coming to this country to kill Americans, or simply doing it in other countries like India.
Maybe you should be a little more clear about who you’d like to wipe off the face of the earth before you start accusing me of being bloodthirsty. You could have said you want to kill terrorists and those who support them, but you didn’t.
The second sentence of comment #7 should have clarified my view, Mike. Elsewhere I made the same point. They’re Islamists. The War on Terror is a stupid misnomer because terror isn’t an entity, it’s a tactic and/or a strategy. Some Islamists employ terrorism to accomplish their goals; they’re still Islamists.
Within the thing called Islamism, which itself is, at least, inconsistent with Western ideals/traditions/thought, there are factions who commit crimes like the ones in Mumbai. They’re the actual enemy, the others are potential.
There is little to convince me that those who wish to live under Sharia Law find terrorism or suicide bombings to project it offensive, whether or not they would do it themselves. I don’t have the figures in front of me, but an astonishing percentage of ME, Malaysian and American Muslims accept it as a means to advance their faith. I probably don’t have to tell you about the (at the moment) limited acceptance of Sharia Law within Western Europe and the US.
That’s an interesting lawerly explanation for your remark about Afghanistan. Killing is killing, Mike. Indiscriminate killing is barbaric. The necessary armaments don’t ask for Al Qaeda ID’s before doing the job.
You seem to believe that by ignoring them, or with some combination of embargoes for human beings and trade, the fanatics of the Islamic World will just go away. Colin Powell advocated the “wash, repeat, rinse” strategy you suggest for Afghanistan. Kill them, kill them again, and leave. That wouldn’t have prevented the Taliban from returning.
Oh well. Good thoughts.
Mike, I notice in the comments section of your blog post about Mumbai, you recomment “covert actions” to slit throats.
There are a couple of guys on this blog with SF connections, one direct and the other by association.
What did you mean in your comment, and what do you know about covert operations?
I’m talking about killing the people that need to be be killed, where they need to be killed. I’m talking about increasing our spying and intelligence capability to get to these people directly with a scalpel and not a sledgehammer. As our troops bust their butts in Iraq and Afghanistan, the cockroaches are laughing at us from Syrai, Pakistan, India, Iran, etc. Unless we’re going to take the full scale military presence there to follow the threat, then we’ve wasted people’s lives. But we’re not going to do that.
During the cold war, our human intelligence and spying capability was vast. Now, we lack the same network in the middle east. At least we did at the start of this action, though my guess is that has been changing over the last several years.
I’m not talking specifically SF operations. I’m talking about us turning the tables and infiltrating their countries with native speakers and the like. The things the CIA is supposed to be adept at.
I agree, Mike. We’re arguing about nothing important.
So much for the sanctity of life, huh.
Thanks for making my day - I couldn’t be happier that morons who think this way are no longer in charge of this country.
The bullet sponge showed up.
Fred,when you learn how to connect the dots, can make moral distinctions, learn how to read and comprehend the text, and color within the lines, maybe you’ll have something worthwhile to say.
Somehow there’s always something more to say to him.
Fred, your guy Obama advocates air strikes in Pakistan and a wider expansion of the war in Afghanistan.
Another war-mongering moron, fred, or just another of YOUR war-mongering morons?
Fred, you’re such a clown.
I just want to know, since when was it considered taboo to call terrorists “terrorists”?
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Since fredct showed up!
Fred doesn’t read the posts or the comments. He gets his knickers in a bunch over things already in hishead…like the sanctity of life remark, and he drops by when he needs to feel really good about himself. He’s just shaking his rolling pin at us today. Yesterday it was someone else.
No marbles:
To clarify…fred entertains himself by dropping stock phrases, quoting some fictitious conservative, and believing that he’s caught us in moral contradictions.
That was the point of the “sanctity of life” idiocy…used in a post about killing fanatics.
Without realizing it, Fred’s telling us that he thinks a partial birth abortion is morally indistinguishable from killing an Israeli-torturing Islamist. You can’t disbelieve in the first without disbelieving in the second.
It’s a screwball position.
Hotspur:
Actually, Fredso does find the moral distinction in the situation you outlined…it is just that he/she finds that the moral argument favoring killing a baby favorable (destruction of innocent life) much much more compelling than that for killing an islamist (innocent non-western, Third-Worlder who was driven to killing by the evil Christian Crusaders, the Pope, Chimpy Bushhitler, Halliburton, the CIA, Big Tobbacco, etc.) who, since he was fighting the above mentioned evil types, can be excused on the matter of leftist principles.
This explains the disconnect that you see when groups and countries that the left idolizes engage in bloodthirsty behavior (massacres, gulags, repression, etc.) that for a country not on the approved leftist list, far less bloodthirstiness gets mass protests, bongo drummers and the giant puppets.
Bongo Drummers? I thought they all died from bad dope or percussive tintinnabulations brought on by dating females with thunder thighs and worn out support hose.
They are still out there, most have branched out into playing steel drums or simply banging on the nearest log/garbage can/ cardboard box, or shouting. A few dozen get shuttled around from protest to protest as part of Rent-a-Rabble (used to be Rent-a-Mob, but they got an offer they couldn’t refuse from the League Agianst Certain Stereotypes).
Well put, Bryan. I wish I could have summed it up that way.
A lot of mental material has to be suppressed, and a lot of connections ignored, to make that “morality” work. Otherwise it’s just a random and chaotic set of personal preferences.
I don’t even know where the energy for it comes from. The fuel for it seems to come from their contempt for people like you and me, from their need to be everything that we aren’t. Kind of like perpetual adolescence.
I had a tall Conga drum when in college. I turned it upside down. It made a good hamper, until the moisture from the funky clothing turned the leather drum top to….aw, forget it.
Your idea of a comeback is trying to call me a girl? Well I guess that explains makes with why your brains - unable to mature past the 7th grade level - has no more intelligent solutions to global trouble than your most base, aggressive instincts.
[The female pronouns in question have been removed by Hotspur from previous comments]
We never established your sex, fred. I actually did think you were a female. “Comeback”? This isn’t some freshman dorm insult session.
It isn’t my instincts that tell me you’re a vapid, clueless, arrogant, reactionary numbskull. It’s your comments. You never read the posts or comments in their entirety, and you never fail to drag up some infantile stereotype from your fevered little mind and throw it at us.
Beat it. I’ve treated you better here than you ever deserved. You’ve never had anything original, interesting or creative to say…just the stock lib fantasies. There is no cliche you haven’t employed, no snarky little insult you haven’t used, and no Donk fad that you haven’t adopted.
If you don’t like NER, stop coming back.
Yes, cause Fred is such an gender ambiguous name. Lying through your remaining tooth does you no favors.
You instincts are bunk. You’re so full of yourself, you easily believe anything you wish to, since you believe your deductive powers to be so flawless. You predicted there was no way the Dems would nominate anyone but Hilary, and then after the election, said you knew from the moment he started running that Obama would win.
Its convenient for you to believe whatever you want about me, so you can dismiss me rather dare consider challenging anything else about the way you want to see the world. Keep living in you little bubble and the rest of us will deal with the real world.
Fredso:
I recall that Hotspur (among many other observers) thought that Her Thighness would be the “inevitable” nominee given the usual crowd of effete white-bread males opposing her. In the leftist heirarchy of political correctness and legitimacy, assuming the ideological bonafides are the same for both: straight female trumps straight male every time, and color trumps gender everytime.
When the Kenyanesian declared his candidacy, the left and lefter elements that effectively control the nominating process saw the “better” more ideologically sound (in their fevered eyes) candidate in Obama and mostly moved away from Hillery!
This and the bizzaro world that the Dems nominating process, with substantial delegates reserved for blacks, gays, teachers, women, handicapped, the bald, the terminally insane and those suffering the heartbreak of psoriasis; allowed Barry to become the nominee.
The media worked to ensure that the weakest republican, McCrank was nominated, by ignoring repeatedly the “minor” candidates, and raising phony “scandals” about one candidate’s great-great grandfather’s possible involvement with a massacre and polygamy.
Thus, we have your Boy as Present-Elect for the next 4 years; assuming of course that USSC doesn’t find out the circumstances of O’s birthplace and find that he does not meet the requirements of that quaint 18th Century document known as The Constitution of the United States of America.
As far as dismissing you, those on this forum have given you ample opportunity to make your points, such as they are.
He’s an Orc! Smite it!
I’ll change the pronouns in the significant comments.
My remaining tooth? That’s funny. I have all my own. You’re an age-ist little pinhead too? Strip the mask off a lib and you see the fangs. In your case, the drool.
You’re also hallucinating again…probably the vegan thing. I don’t remember predicting Hillary. I’ll look. Bryan says I did, so maybe it’s true.
And if it is, so what? I’ll say it again. You live entirely in the dank bizarro world of your own head…chains clanking, screams and water dripping down the inside of your skull. MY GOD, I CAUGHT HOTSPUR IN A MISTAKE!!! JUST WAIT!! I’LL TELL HIM AND HE’LL BE SORRY FOREVER!
What troubles you here, fredster, is - I think - the compulsion to be taken seriously no matter what you say. You need it; you’re obsessed with my approval, too, and when you don’t get it, you go crackers. You always lapse into some weird rebuttal to the
opinion you THINK that I have of myself. That’s okay, fred, I accept your admiration and tolerate your envy.
Now go and play outside.
Fred, when you came here a couple years back, you always used Emoticons. I miss the little smiley faces.
…in the traffic.
Vermont Woodchuck { 12.04.08 at 9:17 am }
He’s an Orc! Smite it!
Much like Bilbo’s sword Sting, my computer does have a bluish glow when progressives and socialists, or their various postings, droppings, etc., are in proximity
Blu-ray?
Bryan, what do think the chances are with the birth certificate challenge?
The USSC is between a rock and a hard place. If they force Barry to produce an actual legally stamped, he might not be able to produce one, thus can be shown not to be a natural born citizen per the Constitution, and therefore ineligible for the Presidency.
This would potentially cause riots from O’s supporters directed against those they consider his enemies, certainly there would be a Constitutional crisis, not least of which there would be a further deepening of the divide between Americans.
Or the USSC could ignore the issue and quickly rule that the “evidence” indicates that Coke ZerO was whelped on these shores, which would be a further erosion of the Constitution and open up the floodgates for much more direct violations of it than we have seen heretofore.
My gut feeling tells me that the Supremes will give the whole birth certificate thing a pass and not make too much of it.
“…thing a pass and not make too much of it.” This erosion will merely lead to another rent in the Constitution which at some point will lead to a bloody war on this soil. This time only one side will be left standing.
There is mumblings and rumblings of repealing the Posse Comitatus Act and of 20,000 troops to protect “in case of a CBRNE or other national emergency.
That will include nationalizing the Guard and moving them to other states, where presumably, they don’t like the citizens. Kind of like Stalin did putting Georgians in Estonia, that sort of thing.
The politicians and the banking elite are panicking over this meltdown; nothing is working because what they’re propping up is way overvalued. The prices to which everything is plummeting is the real value in the global market place. The Emperor not only is nekkid, but his entire court is also.
After the defense budget cuts they’ll be using the inflatable tanks the Brits used to fool the Luftwaffe, with inflatable NG’s as crew.
Well…maybe no inflatable NG’s in San Francisco.
This gets even worse. With what are they going to pay the military when the dollar reaches zero? A big wad of money X zero = do the math.
How many new plans can Paulson come up with in 6 weeks? Rubin is no better, he’s of the same batch.
The Obamassiah can hope all he wants; the crew he picked isn’t made up of change. Two years from now hyper inflation and 25% interest rates will make Carter’s days longed for in retrospect.