Nope from the Hope Dope
In doing some light reading last week, I picked up Barack Obama’s book, Audacity of Hope. It certainly is light reading.
From this I quote, “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
I wonder why he didn’t say Americans? Odd no? Why would the winds shift anyway.
Perhaps he can appear on TV, with an audience in back filled with headscarves, burkahs and a couple of keffiyehs. A teleprompter should make sure no inadvertent juxtapositions of words take place. There he can explain the meaning of this sentence.
Will he do this before or after Jesse gelds him? After Jesse does the cutting, the book’s title will be, Audacity of Nope.
July 11, 2008 at 9:24 am | Trackback
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I’m a native New Englander living in the Washington DC area. I’ve also been dismayed at the one party system (or so it seems) of my native state of Rhode Island and also of Mass, where I went to college.
OK. You selected a quote of Barack Obama from his book.
Why not put the quote in context?
Why are you then positioning it as Muslims vs. Americans?
Defend your specific point.
Let him explain it, he said it. The quote isn’t out of context when you listen to Obama and the constant blather from the Donk party.
Take it from the old time LBJ politics. He said it, let him deny it, or better screw himself into the ground tryin’.
My job here is to “hep Jesse do sum cuttin.” Don’t think I’m for McCain either. There isn’t anyone running worth spit.
You are new here, thanks for stopping by. Some information for you. I’m not PC, don’t care if some one is offended, in fact that might just set off paroxysms of laughter.
I consider the only fair fight the one I win by any means.
Well, it figures you weren’t able or willing to explain the context.
I generally am PC by choice, not by force. But I’m game.
You must be a post-metamorphosis Romney man.
What’s it like being conservative and living in Vermont?
Wait a minute…you’re from Massachusetts.
What’s it like being conservative and living in Massachusetts?
PC by choice = moonbat
or rather someone who refuses to see the world for what it is, but prefers to redefine reality rather than question his ideological values.
Oh, and BTW it’s Barry Hussein’s responsibility to explain the “context” of his quote, not VW’s.
And the Woodchuck is from Vermont. I have a grand time giving the moonbats whiplash. Since I also work for a chain of newspapers, I get to write edits and make photos that lampoon their death grip on emotion and lack of reason. I never get a cogent argument, just name calling.
I want Obama to explain why the winds would shift. Just what would cause that? Care to venture a logical posit on the subject? You seem to be an apologist for him.
I like the clever and question-begging “post-metamorphosis Romney man”. Lots of syllables soaked in meaninglessness.
…oh..where’s Raul when you need him. We need another ruling from Strunk/White.
Thanks Hotspur. That “post-metamorphosis Romney man” didn’t register since I’ve always thought of myself more as a Post-Cambrian to Late Wednesday person. Guess I’m just old and fuddled. I don’t think I can stay up till the Renaissance comes on.
Mildred, where’s my pills?
Raul is at the audiologist having his ear wax removed with a 7/16″ spade bit.
I’m post-Derrida. I enjoy putting things back together.
Oh, forgot. Raul is a Forstner kind of guy. He doesn’t like rough edges, just a nice clean hole.
Get your own damn pills, you old goat.
I think it’s interesting that you said you read his book. Because it doesn’t look like you did. Did you really? The quote out of its context is incredibly misleading, as you can see below. Did you do that on purpose? Or are you just copying this post from someone else?
FULL QUOTE
“Whenever I appear before immigrant audiences, I can count on some good-natured ribbing from my staff after my speech; according to them, my remarks always follow a three-part structure: “I am your friend,” “[Fill in the home country] has been a cradle of civilization,” and “You embody the American dream.” They’re right, my message is simple, for what I’ve come to understand is that my mere presence before these newly minted Americans serves notice that they matter, that they are voters critical to my success and full-fledged citizens deserving of respect.
Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” [Page 260-261]
The quote doesn’t even say that he will stand with the muslims. It says that that is what muslims need to hear, because they are afraid that our government will abuse its power against them. The political winds shifting in an “ugly direction” refers to something like a repeat of the Japanese internments during WWII. Taking a quote out of context is bad–but when that context is a recursive structure, it’s extra bad. That’s like quoting someone as saying “I am a terrible person” when they actually said “He thinks that I am a terrible person.”
Lots of people have reported this quote exactly as you have ,which is not exactly as it appears in the book. This leads me to believe that you are all copying each other’s posts. But you say I READ HIS BOOK. HERE IS A QUOTE. That is downright dishonest, Woodchuck. Super disappointing.
Shannon, when did it become a moral and emotional obligation for native Americans, at war with radical Islam, to comfort Muslim arrivals? The people in question are here because the country welcomed them with (sometimes unjust and tortuous, but usually generous) immigration laws.
“Political winds”? What the hell are political winds? You folks are always in search of another pogrom.
The dark underbelly of Japanese internment is not comparable to “hard stares” and FBI questioning of suspects…this the usual twist in Obama logic of conflating two entirely separate matters and loading the conclusion with a bogus emotional and political component. The guy is a lawyer, for Christ’s sake.
Your second comment arrived before mine.
Abuse of government power in re internment is more than unlikely…with current civil rights laws for CITIZENS, it’s nearly impossible.
To Obama, a hard stare and the legal right to question suspects is the forge for the iron gates of internment.
Get serious.
If you disagree with the point being made by the actual quote, fine. That’s your right. I would just like to see things reported accurately.
He is not saying that there is going to be a repeat of the internment camps–he is saying that muslim immigrants are afraid. He’s not stating an opinion. He’s reporting an observation.
Who’s in danger of internment? Muslims? Americans? Americans is the operative word. Obama was playing to a crowd of “Arabs and Pakistani Americans”, (most, by not all of whom would be Muslims) the context was American suspicion of Islam and Muslim insecurity. Obama clearly aimed his multicultural backbone at Muslims who are uneasy with hard looks and FBI questioning.
The issues are related, and only some bizarre reinterpretation of Obama’s intent can disassociate the Muslim component from a standard defense of personal sovereignty.
C’mon, Shannon. VW can defend himself. I’m not clarifying his post, but you need to clarify Obama’s intentions.
I am not particularly interested in clarifying Obama’s intentions as they apply specifically to one paragraph of a 300-page book. If you’d like his intentions clarified, read the book. I suspect that’s exactly why he wrote it.
I would however like to clarify MY intentions: to correct VW’s post, which was misleading and unfair. My intention was not to get into a debate with you about whether anyone will or will not be put in an internment camp. It is not my belief that this is likely.
Shannon, I did read the book; ‘that is for starters. It also was a colossal waste of time.
The quote I used is one Obama used not from his book but when he talked about the book and the specific graph in the book. That bozo should not be let near an open mike alone.
Secondly, these people should be worried, since they are sending their kids to the madrassas in Pakistan, getting them radicalized and brought back here. That constitutes a fifth column by definition.
We can cure their condition with some good” ole fashioned” homeopathic treatment, sort of like we get in Saudi Arabia.
Perhaps the same strictures we place on Christians and Jews now should be clamped on the Muslims. No open displays of religion, no headscarves, burkahs or footwashing stations. Give the same abuse to the Q’oran as the Bible receives and keep Islam out of public schools.
I’m all for it.
VW: Please provide a reference to document your assertion in paragraph 2. I find it fairly odd that (1) you now say the quote is not actually from his book, but rather from him speaking, which is in direct contradiction with what you said in your initial post; and (2) that Obama would be speaking about that passage at all, except to refute it, as the topic of muslims in general has been one that his campaign has taken pains to avoid because of the false rumors that are circulating about his religious affiliation (among others). But since I have not seen every speech that Obama has made, I really can’t be sure. So what are you quoting? It should be easy enough for you to find a link to this speech or whatever it was.
NBC Nightly news I think which I happened to see at a friend’s house. (I do not watch TV, except for 1/2 hour local news and NBR for a total of 5 hours a week)
I’m guessing a week to two weeks ago and it was one of those idiot sound bites so dearly loved by TV.
I remember them running four clips and this was one of them.
Shannon, I am a really big fan of LBJ style politicking. The Dems developed it into a fine art and I appreciate fine art. (I have a BFA)
When LBJ called another congressman a pigfu**er, someone said the congressman isn’t. LBJ said I know but let him go on TV and deny it.
Let Obama screw himself into the ground denying he isn’t a communist, Marzist, Muslim or a child molester.
It’s all politics Donkey style. The politics of personal destruction is another name for it I believe. Who worked that bit up?
VW - I don’t see how the Bible is being abused. Nor would I want it taught in school. Same for the Koran.
People should be free to wear headscarves, crosses, etc. Where in the states are they not allowed to do so?
Jonathan, you caught me on a day when the paper goes to bed. I’ll be back to you on this.
Well Jonathan, You’re watching too much CNN and Teletubbies. Public schools have “be a Musilm day” where they pray on mats, wash feet, eat certain foods and dress in bags so the young girls can get the feeling of being chattel I guess.
A crucifix upside down in piss is OK, but a Q’oran shoved in a pig’s ass gets the press in a snit.
No prayer in schools, at games or graduations, but muzzies can stop classes to pray when required. Shari’a law is practiced and our courts are told to respect it (Texas) Lets try that with Talmudic law, no?
I’m not going back over the news to recap all the recorded events. Wake up, stop watching the nightly Soma shows. Try Fox Network, listen to or watch Glenn Beck. Maybe Roger Simon or Gerry Doyle for a change. No, they are not right wingers. They are not spinning the news either.
And get out of the center. That is composed of people who cannot think for themselves.
Roger Simon was with the small group of youngsters who went south for the Civil Rights movement in 1965, and was nearly killed along with the two who died. He permanently lost the use of his right hand in violence there.