Israeli Moonbats
It’s frightening how widespread and illogical moonbats are. You live in Israel. You are surrounded by radical zealots who want to kill you and destroy your country, but it’ll work out if you just negotiate. It’s never worked before, but give peace a chance, right?
Archived in: Hamas, Israel, Lebanon, Military, Moonbats“Israel is entering another cycle of fighting and continues the foolishness of exaggerated aggression. I came here to protest because there’s a link between starving and oppressing the Palestinians and the bombings in Lebanon.”
“This is a stupid, unnecessary and evil war. Our leaders could have prevented it. eventually the hostages will be released through negotiations, but hundreds will be killed along the way in Lebanon, and I don’t know how many will die here. I think that we must make our voice heard.”
“The Israeli aggression leads to an overall war no one wants. I think that Israel should negotiate with Hizbullah and Hamas and release Palestinian prisoners in exchange for the hostages. This way this story will come to an end.”
“The choice of whether to escalate the situation or not is in our hands and the question of saving lives or not is also in our hands…there is no military solution. Only negotiations.”
July 17, 2006 at 9:46 am | Trackback
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This isn’t simply decayed pacifism, it’s something much worse. And it’s always existed alongside ease and prosperity. It’s the cowardice of the comfortable, the soft, parasitic thinking of those who need not defend themselves, and for whom evil is, if non-existent, still only an abstraction. You see more of it on The Left, because it’s consistent with their grotesque fantasies of personal triumph, wealth, intelligence and bloat. Add in their conviction that people who disagree with them are also people of bad character (conservatives), and you have the makeup of a quisling. The Hezb’Democrats are already criticizing the administration for this situation. There’s the example in real life.
Rhod, you really need to be posting.
Ah, the banality of negotiations upon negotiations, “if only you are willing to talk.” Never posited is the situation where the other ‘negotiators’ converse using weapons. The moonbat cry is heard “if only, if only!” if only Israel deigned to give up L plus G. They forsook the penultimate and ultimate Y and Z; give more to the peace sacrifice. Whatever befalls the interloper, that situation is your millstone too. A humanitarian pallet load of goats dropped on some jihadist just rallies the unwashed to scream again for blood.
“…know how many will die here. I think that we must make our voice heard.” These individuals never consider that a deliberate rejection of their voice occurred. Never will you see them put themselves out front to proclaim their position.
In this country, the Dems have to calculate carefully with this, they face a large Jewish vote in very blue states, and while in opposition the loonies will flog them mercilessly for pandering to war. Although for some, their SA is so degraded, they take that despairing step of abasing themselves to prove to the pacificists, what? That it’s better to meekly surrender one’s freedom or life because some pacificist decided groveling is a way to live.
Pacificists will inherit the earth only after they obtain superior firepower. Till then, they are merely targets for those “negotiating” with weapons.
Yes and no. In the US, this is very sound reasoning. Thanks to the blood, sweat, and tears of our military, most Americans have been insulated from the harsher realities of the external world all of their lives. Not only did many forget how to fight, but that there are things worth fighting for and people willing to take them away if we don’t.
If you live in Iowa or California, you can see how 9/11 might not have made a huge impression on you. NY City is 1000 of miles away, and maybe you don’t have friends or family in the area. Terrorists are unlikely to fly a plane into Iowa cornfields so why worry.
But how are you going to escape the violence and terrorism in Israel? You probably rode the bus or ate at the restaurant the terrorists bombed yesterday. Most likely you have a family member or a friend with family members in the service. You see terrorists recruit children as suicide bombers. And that’s where the complacency argument (for lack of a better term) breaks down in my mind. How do you escape the reality of what is going on in a postage stamp sized country under constant attack? Even the most oblivious person would have to take note eventually.
My own theory is that the leftist fetish for negotiation and “talks” is one consequence of the bland Hegelianism that saturates leftist thinking, on every issue. You could drop in some Freud, too, because the moral neutrality is so welcome to the same people. Wherever leftists cater to the simplest human need, especially in primary education, you find the same languid and enfeebled process of conflict resolution. No sturm and drang, just treacle, and it pours from their mouths wherever the opportunity presents itself. The end of their negotiations is always the compression of hatred and discontent, and their leakage into other areas of life where they have no responsibility for outcomes.
The simplest truth is that freedom is not self-generating, but is the result of real struggle. The default position for all human cultures seems to be order imposed by ruthless competition, originating in some evil and permanent need for supremacy and self-extension. What is Islamism but the claim for universal jurisdiction over human affairs? It can’t be stopped by talk, unless the talk is a list of endless concessions. We can’t leave anything important to the left, unless its the need for bizarre examples to keep us on the right course.
And thanks, Wave, but it’s easy. I just observe my neighbors here in Doddland, and describe them.
Hi Guys,
I very much appreciate reading your posts. I, myself, have never been part of the military but was raised by an exemplary WWII Dad who communicated to me then the gist of what you’re saying now through his silent military wisdom. Also, I raised a son who heard the call. It’s just so rare that we hear skillful elocution of heart truths that many of us carry so deeply protected, and sure as shootin’ know them when we hear them! I’m listening…
Helen
Helen:
Thank you for your son’s dedication. I certainly know what you’re feeling today.
Helen, I hope your son travels well and safely. Thank him for me for his service.
Negotiate, never formulate an aggressive response lest you upset those poking you in the eye. The moonbats’ reaction to Sept 11, hold a day of fast and introspection.
Then return lockstep to their existential lives, very reminiscent of Giacometti’s etiolated human sculptures, unembellished lives devoid of any connection with country and positive direction. They forget Sartre repudiated his beliefs before he died, and I suspect Camus did just before he ate the steering wheel.
The rest of our population has become soft, pleasuring themselves with a variety of hedonistic toys. Defense of self is left to the police, call 911, sue if the response is slow. While they wait for Godot, they’re busy shuffling nothing from pocket to pocket, wanting others to shield their IRA’s and 401s from real or perceived threats. Support the troops, but not the war, as if that is separable. While you are doing it, fight nice!
If it will cost more to heat a house, drive a car or if it lowers their trust fund return, then cut and run for the war is unjust. I’ve searched my library looking for a quote, I believe by Bonaparte, on an unjust war. Paraphrasing, the only unjust war is one not prosecuted to the finish, where the enemy lays down arms, the leaders deposed and eliminated. Anything less is an insult to the lives lost during the conflict and the cost to the citizenry. It calls for a bit of sacrifice on the part of the swells.
What would they say about the financial cost of WWII, the human cost? Is 92,000 plus battle deaths in the Pacific theater too great? Times 22 was the Japanese battle death count, leaving out civilians. Africa and Europe were worse.
For the moonbats, today’s Iran and Hitler’s prewar Germany are synonymous. Acquiescing to demands, backing away from overt moves, more diplomacy and negotiations rule all contact. We mustn’t upset the mullahs. Pay no attention to history.
Dealing with Iran now might prove to be easier than previously thought. I think the affiliation of the populace isn’t quite as the Iranian powers pretend. However, whether that is true or not, it is a far less dangerous pursuit now than after North Korea bequeaths the missiles and technology to deliver nukes to the neighborhood. To Iranian leadership, nukes call the Mahdi to the final battle.
Israel knows it; we had better learn it again. Fast!